Honda Element. Manual - part 803

25. Update the ECM/PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE ECM/PCM ), or

substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ).

26. Start the engine, and let it idle.

27. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

Is DTC P0340 indicated?

YES -Check for poor connections or loose terminals at CMP sensor A and the ECM/PCM, then go to step
1. If the ECM/PCM was updated, substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE
ECM/PCM ), then go to step 26. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, go to step 1.

NO -If the ECM/PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the ECM/PCM was substituted,
replace the original ECM/PCM (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ). If any other Temporary DTCs or
DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTCs troubleshooting.

DTC P0341: CMP SENSOR A AND CKP SENSOR INCORRECT PHASE DETECTED

1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

3. Test-drive at a steady speed between 19-38 mph (30-60 km/h) for 10 minutes.

4. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

Is DTC P0341 indicated?

YES -Go to step 9.

NO -Go to step 5.

5. Do the VTC TEST in the INSPECTION MENU with the HDS.

Is the result OK?

YES -Go to step 6.

NO -Go to step 9.

6. Test-drive at a steady speed between 19-38 mph (30-60 km/h) for 10 minutes.

7. Check the VTC STATUS in the DATA LIST with the HDS.

NOTE:

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Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board
snapshot, and review the general troubleshooting information (see
GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).

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If DTC P1009 is stored along with P0341, troubleshoot DTC P1009 first,
then recheck for DTC P0341.

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Does it indicate ON?

YES -Go to step 8.

NO -Go to step 6 and recheck.

8. Monitor the OBD STATUS for DTC P0341 in the DTCs MENU with the HDS.

Does the screen indicate FAILED?

YES -Go to step 9.

NO -If the screen indicates PASSED, intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor
connections or loose terminals at the VTC oil control solenoid valve and the ECM/PCM. If the screen
indicates NOT COMPLETED, go to step 6 and recheck.

9. Turn the ignition switch OFF.

10. Test the VTC oil control solenoid valve (see VTC OIL CONTROL SOLENOID VALVE

REMOVAL/TEST/INSTALLATION ).

Is the VTC oil control solenoid valve OK?

YES -Go to step 11.

NO -Replace the VTC oil control solenoid valve (see VTC OIL CONTROL SOLENOID VALVE
REMOVAL/TEST/INSTALLATION ), then go to step 14.

11. Check the camshaft timing (see step 1 in CAM CHAIN INSTALLATION ).

Is the camshaft timing OK?

YES -Go to step 12.

NO -Replace the auto-tensioner (see AUTO-TENSIONER REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), and
reset the camshaft timing (see CAM CHAIN INSTALLATION ), then go to step 14.

12. Check the cam chain for damage or looseness (see CAM CHAIN INSPECTION ).

Is the cam chain damaged?

YES -Replace the cam chain and auto-tensioner (see CAM CHAIN REMOVAL ), then go to step 14.

NO -Go to step 13.

13. Inspect the VTC actuator (see VTC ACTUATOR INSPECTION ).

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Is the actuator OK?

YES -Go to step 14.

NO -Replace the VTC actuator (see VTC ACTUATOR, EXHAUST CAMSHAFT SPROCKET
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), then go to step 14.

14. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

15. Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS.

16. Clear the CKP pattern with the HDS.

17. Do the ECM/PCM idle learn procedure (see ECM/PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE ).

18. Do the CKP pattern learn procedure (see CRANK (CKP) PATTERN CLEAR/CRANK (CKP)

PATTERN LEARN ).

19. Test-drive at a steady speed between 19-38 mph (30-60 km/h) for 10 minutes.

20. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

Is DTC P0341 indicated?

YES -Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the VTC oil control solenoid valve and the
ECM/PCM, then go to step 1.

NO -Go to step 21.

21. Monitor the OBD STATUS for DTC P0341 in the DTCs MENU with the HDS.

Does the screen Indicate PASSED?

YES -Troubleshooting is complete. If any other Temporary DTCs or DTCs were indicated in step 20, go
to the indicated DTCs troubleshooting.

NO -If the screen indicates FAILED, check for poor connections or loose terminals at the VTC oil control
solenoid valve and the ECM/PCM, then go to step 1. If the screen indicates NOT COMPLETED, go to
step 19.

DTC P0344: CMP SENSOR A INTERMITTENT INTERRUPTION

1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

3. Start the engine, and let it idle 10 seconds.

4. Check the CMP A NOISE in the DATA LIST with the HDS.

NOTE:

Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and
review the general troubleshooting information (see GENERAL
TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).

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Are 0 counts indicated?

YES -Go to step 7.

NO -Go to step 5.

5. Test-drive the vehicle for several minutes in the range of these recorded freeze data parameters:

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ENGINE SPEED

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VSS

6. Check the CMP NOISE A count in the DATA LIST with the HDS.

Are 0 counts indicated?

YES -Go to step 7.

NO -Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at
CMP sensor A and the ECM/PCM.

7. Check for poor or loose connections and terminals at these locations:

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CMP sensor A

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ECM/PCM

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Engine ground

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Body ground

Are the connections and terminals OK?

YES -Go to step 8.

NO -Repair the connectors or terminals, then go to step 11.

8. Check CMP pulse plate A for damage (see CMP PULSE PLATE A REPLACEMENT ).

Is the pulse plate damaged?

YES -Replace CMP pulse plate A (see CMP PULSE PLATE A REPLACEMENT ), then go to step
11.

NO -Go to step 9.

9. Turn the ignition switch OFF.

10. Replace CMP sensor A (see CMP SENSOR A REPLACEMENT ).

11. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

12. Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS.

13. Do the ECM/PCM idle learn procedure (see ECM/PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE ).

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